money can buy, black box voting, ballot tampering in the 21st century , imperial hubris and obama s war. does this tell us anything about bin laden and his organization? i m joined by the senator from maine who sits on the intelligence committee. what did you make of this wealth of stuff taken from basically what became the tomb of osama bin laden, senator? well, i think it s fascinating, although, chris, i can t imagine that one of your books wasn t there. i don t know about you. he wasn t a believer in american democracy like i am. anyway. how did he miss that? it is fascinating to get that insight. and as you know, this is really the first bunch of this material that is going to be released. and there is going to be more i think as we see the contents of the computers and the hard drives. this is really the kind of the tip of the iceberg, i think. but clearly, one of the things that came through was, a, he wanted to attack us here at home. and b, he was becoming sort of d
yeah. that sort of fizzled. and i think clearly that was one of his targets. and, you know, frankly, it s one of the things that keeps me up at night is not so much a bombing like what he was thinking about, but a cyberattack. and here we are 14 years later. he probably never heard of a cyberattack. but right now that s what we have to worry about, particularly with our financial institutions. chris, the next pearl harbor is probably going to be cyber. and we have to get ready for it. i d say you re right, sir. thank you much, senator angus king of maine, who has seen the stuff. i m joined by terrorist analyst evan kohlmann. evan, tell me what you think. you re an expert on this thing. like the books he was reading, how he still wanted to hit our big targets and blow us apart. i think he was looking at the federal reserve and trying to figure that thing out. he has this obsessive need to attack the united states. and i think part of it actually can be explained through some of
kentucky. he s a democrat from the rural area. conway is a city republican. remember rand paul blew him out in 2010. where was kentucky in the civil war? it stayed in the union, but it it stayed in the union and there was heavy battling and a lot of con federates. to get elected as a democrat, it s hard to be from the city. it s hard to be a graduate from duke university. bill clinton carried the partieses a couple times. the appalachian areas, west virginia, those kind of places were democrat. not when we were growing up, recently. you know what they re going to use a lot, barack obama. i wonder why. you wonder why. howard fineman, thank you. great roundtable tonight. we talked about everything from cock fightinged to serious stuff. when we return, let s talk about something that truly matters.
and we believe he has in fact reconstituted nuclear weapons. and here on hardball last night, the top cia official, the man who briefed president bush on a daily basis said what cheney said was not true. was that true or not? so we were saying was that true? we were saying can you answer that question? no, that s not true. they re using your stuff saying you made that case when you didn t. so they re using your credibility to make the case for war dishonestly, as you just admitted. look, i m just telling you. you just admitted it. i m just telling you what he said, chris. the full presentation of what you said to them? on some aspects. he has a nuclear weapon. i m telling you what was said. chris, i m telling you what was said. do you agree? it s a big deal. to claim they had a weapon when you knew they didn t. so this final piece of the sales pitch is what did it. and to know and now hearing it from you that that wasn t based on fact or any evid
for the hard stuff. somewhere in china, the geniuses are thinking of how they re going to thump us, watching the news from the american politics. they re electing a governor. what kind of crazy people are they? this is america, can you always make a comeback. just when you think you re on the floor, you completely screwed up, you you ve seen enough could be fights to know they ve turned around in the last round. the more you make fun of cock fighting. devin came from behind this week. with this ad. running for governor is supposed to be about leadership. but they re acting like children, throwing insults and attacking each other. kentucky can do much better. matt beven is running a positive campaign. matt beven s closest rival said, it s been the dirtiest campaign in history.