and this afternoon, wolf, late this afternoon, word from cnn s ivan watson that in fact libya s choice for u.n. representative is defeking, too. yeah, i suspect there s going to be more of that going on as well. thanks for that, jill. let s bring in cnn national security criminal intent tor fran townsend. she s a member of the cia external advisory committee. she met with high ranking libyan officials last year. you met moussa koussa. what s he like? he s incredibly bright, but also incredibly manipulative person as you would expect in the head of an intelligence service. he held the job for decades. it is true to say he is one of two officials outside of the gadhafi family who have been with gadhafi and remain very close to him. one is moussa koussa, the former head of libyan intelligence. the other who we ve not talked about is abdullah sanusi, the current head of libyan intelligence.