key nato members are racing to find a security guarantee for ukraine and a long-term commitment to help ukraine win the war against russia now approaching the 18th month mark. this comes after the biden administration approved sending controversial cluster munitions to kyiv, an issue that has divided nato allies. joining us former defense secretary and cia director, leon panetta. mr. secretary, thank you for being with us. it s a privilege to get to talk to you. i want to start first with the cluster munitions. john kirby was asked about how the administration made that controversial call. let s listen. this is literally a gunfight all along from the donbas all the way down toward zaporizhzhia and kherson. they re running out of inventory. we re going to send these additional artillery shells that you have cluster bomblets in them to help bridge the gap as we ramp up production of normal 155 artillery shells.
and president zelenskyy wanted the cluster bomblets, and some human rights say they could cause civilians to be killed. but thousands of civilians have been killed by the bombs and some cluster bombs with incendiaries. griff: to bring it back to the point where it gone, when the secret service could give us details about the cocaine caper? officials say we could get some news as soon as monday about this investigation, however, those same officials are warning that this would be a preliminary investigation, might not have a list of suspects. but certainly, a lot of eyes right now on both the staffers at the white house and the visitor logs. griff: lucas tomlinson live for us on the north lawn.