i won t get into a baseline argument with you because that s what a lot of this is about. you haven t given me the math. well, i don t have the it would take me too long to go through all of the math. let me say it this way. you can lower tax rates by 20% across the board, by closing loop who else and stul have preferences for the middle class for things like charitable deductions for home purchases, for health care. that was yesterday. here s paul ryan s new excuse for giving no specifics. look, the point, you know, i like chris. i didn t want to get into all the math of this because everybody would start changing the channel. joining me now, two men who promise not to change the chabl when it comes to the romney/ryan campaign specifics. sam stein msnbc contributor and jonathan capeheart, msnbc contributor. jonathan this has become truly
trillion? no. i won t get into a baseline argument with you because that s what a lot of this is about. you haven t given me the math. well, i don t have the it would take me too long to go through all of the math. let me say it this way. you can lower tax rates by 20% across the board, by closing loop who else and stul have preferences for the middle class for things like charitable deductions for home purchases, for health care. that was yesterday. here s paul ryan s new excuse for giving no specifics. look, the point, you know, i like chris. i didn t want to get into all the math of this because everybody would start changing the channel. joining me now, two men who promise not to change the chabl when it comes to the romney/ryan campaign specifics. sam stein msnbc contributor and jonathan capeheart, msnbc