laurence llewelyn bowen boisterously doing up people s living rooms, ruby wax looking back at celebrity interviews that she did in the past, and then, look what s coming up never mind the buzzcocks, blankety blank, sex and the city it s a very long list. so, welcome to the era of the reboot, an age when tv executives seem to be pouring over dog eared copies of the radio times, looking for formats that they can bring back to our screens. so, why this trend and why now? is it because the 90s and the naughties were the real golden age of tv after all, or is competition for viewers now so fierce that commissioners are too quick to fall back on what they see as trusted hits from yesteryear? well, let me introduce you to my guests. ruby wax, who needs little introduction actor, comedian, writer, mental health campaigner and clive tulloh, who worked with ruby as her producer for many years, including on some of those interviews that she did
ruby, i was wondering like those in front of the camera. we talked about changing trends and programmes being reinvented and coming back. how much are you conscious of that need to adapt as fashions change in terms of what you do in front of the camera? well, i wanted to produce after my show finish. i constantly like to reinvent. i wouldn t have minded being behind the camera and working for a production company. heat being behind the camera and working for a production company. for a production company. next time i for a production company. next time i present - for a production company. next time i present. clive for a production company. next time i present. .. clive will for a production company. next time i present. clive will do for a production company. next time i present. clive will do anything - i present. clive will do anything but. i present. clive will do anything but- that i present. clive will do anything but. that was i present. clive will do anything but
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something evergreen. game shows are so hard to get right. if you ve got one that actually works, don t change that. - well, except, at some point, somebody must ve decided that it didn t work, that it s not sufficient enough to stay on the television. and then, what, five years elapsed and you ll come back and decide, actually, now is the moment to revive it. i wonder what the dynamics of all that is. oh, gosh, i won t go on for ages because i think this stuff is really complicated. i was at itv for many years when the cube was on, - so i obviously wasn t i running objective then. and i think what you do with all | shows is you tend to look at it| and think, how can we improve? does it need something changing up? do we change elements of it? do we freshen up the format? when it s a game show. it might be different for ruby and clive with celebrity. interviews, that s about really brilliant interviews, isn t it? but i don t think that - happened with the cube. so, actually, it s
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