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associate, when they start getting into trouble. paul manafort comes to mind. but in this case, he did make clear then on saturday, that that was not the case. he confirmed in the fox interview that giuliani was still his lawyer. and so we ll see going forward. but it is worth mentioning that giuliani is obviously at the center of all of these things having to do with ukraine, that kicked off the impeachment inquiry, by house democrats. so as that continues, we will have to watch the relationship between the president and giuliani and see if it changes at all. the president seems to be a fair weather friend. i think there was a moment, giuliani talking to reporter, you will have to ask rudy about that and he conjured about images when he said that about maple cohen and you will have to talk to michael cohen. and you know what happened there. hunter biden stepping down

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presidency. sure enough now here we are are months later you have cohen s company filing a motion saying there was no agreement. michael the only issue keeping team trump in this lawsuit is stipulated to. it s gone poof. it disappeared. why should there be depositions of the president if he s agreed as to the only issue that keeps him in the case. but michael avenatti will have an answer and i expect we ll see it too. part of one on twitter let me be clear my client and i will never settle the case absent full disclosure and accountability. we are committed to the truth and we are committed to delivering it to the american people. this has been the white whale r for michael avenatti help what s your read on the odds of it happening in this case and as a couple of others continue?

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the recent case law coming out of the fourth circuit. that s something that is very, very concerning for anybody working in journalism. chuck, as we survey the legal landscape here looking into the next week, someone else on the horizon has been george papadopoulos who was sentenced on friday. by all indications from robber mull letter mueller mueller s team he wasn t very cooperative. help us understand the significance of his sentencing on friday, a sentencing of two weeks, longer than the norm. what does it say to you about the course of the investigation being conducted by robert mueller and his team? his sentence was sort of what i had expected. it s a five year statutory maximum. in other words, the judge could have put him in jail for five years, but that s just not going to happen in a case like this. why? well, it was a first offense as far as we know. and second, because he has no criminal history whatsoever. because he pled guilty.

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oversight over matters like this, they will make that decision. your reaction to that, what kellyanne conway had to say there. we won t know. not only will we not know, but if the doj does died to look into this the first thing reporters would think about is the reporter s privilege. but the supreme court has said this privilege can be pearce ief there s no other way to get the information. a recent case held that in cases of national security it satisfies that compelling need such that these protections as named after the supreme court case don t even apply. in other words, so long as national security is invoked, it may be the case that there is no reporter s privilege whatsoever. so that if the doj does decide to investigate, not only do they not need to tell anybody about it, but they can almost surely pierce any claimed first amendment protections because of

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look, we know from the supreme court that presidents are susceptible to being deposed while in office. that was the holding of the supreme court and the clinton v. jones case. it was a civil matter. the court did not think it appropriate to postpone it, past president clinton s tenure in office. he was deposed while a sitting president. there are a number of proceedings right now in which the president is a defendant in a civil case. and i imagine some of those are going to result in the president testifying under oath or providing written answers under oath. quickly, in the stormy daniels situation, now that the only issue remains is whether or not michael cohen defamed stormy daniels, it s an uphill battle to argue that there s any issue as to that defamation that warrants bringing in the president for a deposition. given that not just anybody can get a deposition of the president. you have to show a pretty darn good reason. always good to talk to both of you. danny and chuck,

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