t eruption they did. anytime you say, as he did, suggest that the policy was regime change, it s going to cause a huge problem. this administration has done everything they can to stop escalating. there s not a lot more you can do to escalate than to call for a regime change. joined now by former defense secretary under president clinton werenilliam cohen. great to see you. the president said what we re all thinking and most people outside of russia thinking for years. senator risch called it a horrendous gaffe. is the d.c. bubble, people inside the beltway, making a bigger deal out of this than it really is? what are your thoughts? well, i think they re making it bigger than it is. after all, this is the leader who might now be complaining that president biden is suggesting he not remain in office. president putin intervened in the american elections in 2016