the russian government s effort to interfere in our election is among the most serious. to point out other areas that we have to look at are many more companies or not companies, many more countries are replicating what russia has done. did you think this was a single attempt by the russians to get involved in our election or did you find evidence to suggest they ll try to do this again? they are doing it as we sit here, and they expect to do it during the next campaign. all right. joining me now is robert anderson former executive assistant director of the fbi s national security branch. he is now ceo at cyber defense labs. also with us is clint waats, an nbc national security analyst. he is author the author. robert, i m going to start with