also it would have given the executive branch a win in the future, meaning if there s another president trump, they could carry out these policies. they did something quite different here. i wonder why they reached this decision. there are two things facing migrants at the boarder, title 42, remove and remain in mexico does not address title 42, which is the on-ramp to get to the supreme court next. that s the next case we have to watch, looking at this decision. as we are sort of reeling about what s going on in texas, let s not forget about the migrants that expired there because of this hateful policy in the back of a truck. absolutely. we continue to talk about that. 53 people lost their lives here in the united states. just right off of san antonio. 53 men, women and children. and that situation continues. i m just wondering, so what happens in washington, in the
for other things, too. i m just wondering, rick, who and how would those exceptions be decided, right? the senate has to make that decision, and the senate would have to make a new rule saying the 60 votes necessary to pass legislation isn t necessary for codifying roe v. wade. it s not necessary for voting rights. in fact, lots and lots of folks were calling for the senate to do that around voting rights. i was one of them. i think, you know, once biden says this is fine with him, we are not barred. there are republican senators who also would like to codify roe v. wade into law. richard stengel, it was nice seeing you this morning. that s all for me. i m jose diaz-balart.
the the other case, the epa case, which looks so dangerous, you know, i think, yes, there s a small win for the biden administration with respect to remain in mexico, but the climate decision, jose, is such a dramatic thing. every minute that i read this gets worse and worse and stripping congress s ability to regulate greenhouse gas emissions. this is a very scary day. neal, if you would, continue reading that 80-plus decision, if you would, and let s have this conversation throughout the remainder of this hour on what exactly you re seeing there and some of the issues that you would like for us to focus on. i want to go to nbc news national correspondent, gabe gutierrez, who has spent a lot of time covering the remain in mexico policy and its impact. gabe, i know that you have spoken to people that have actually been in these camps and continue to be in the camps,
doing, when i look at what people are doing, that does give me hope. but when i look at the direction the federal government is taking, when i look at the direction this country is taking right now, it is very difficult to find that hope. doctor, thank you for being with us this morning. paul butler, i want to continue with your thoughts. you were telling us what your perspective was before on announcing this decision. now that you see it, what s your reaction? this case was about the ability of the environmental protection agency to do its most important job, fighting climate change. and if that wasn t important enough, there are other seismic consequences to the court s ruling today. just like overturning roe versus wade was a carefully planned decades long effort of the far right, this case also comes out of a long-term project by conservatives to limit the power of government agencies. and, jose, the court could have
changes that the court feels are beyond what congress has allowed them to do. so we ll get the decision on remain in mexico program in about five minutes, jose. for now, this is a big setback for the biden administration for its efforts to undertake a program to restrict global warming. pete williams, thank you very much. we ll be coming right back to you as soon as that supreme court announcement is handed down. so, joy, and i apologize for interrupting you, but breaking news is breaking news, and pete williams is pete williams. let s focus in on west virginia versus epa. what are the repercussions of this and what does it mean? the repercussions are broader than just this ruling which restricts the epa s ability. we re talking about limits being imposed essentially on using coal and the shift to more