or maybe even willful, transmitting this informatio to the public, i think i undermines our argument. first of all, i think we hav too much classified information. there are hundreds of thousand of classified documents that are created every single day hundreds of thousands of peopl inside of the government who got access to this information we need to do a much better jo of tightening control of the true secrets our nation has to protect. these documents and jus reveal secrets of, us there content in there about some of our allies egypt, israel. are you concerned this could damage our relationships wit these countries? i am. look, we weathered the snowden revelations. we weathered some of the other much more significan disclosures of classifie information. that the republic has no fallen stephanie, i do worry abou this because i think although lot of the assessments of th russia-ukraine war were really the kinds of things yo normally would hear it even unclassifie
and where exactly and who ha access at that point - we don t know. here now, jeremy bash former chief of staff at the cia and the pentagon jeremy, i m going to ask you t speak up tonight and i want th folks at fox across the street to hear. earlier tonight they wer saying that nobody is covering this no one is covering it that s not true. so i want to make sure they ca hear you what in the world is going o inside the pentagon tonight? what kind of damage control is happening? yeah, stephanie ruhle, first, this is not a lake a leak is a comment by, usually, unnamed source to a journalist about a tidbit of information. this is a flood. this is a set of documents tha was probably circulating hig up in the pentagon just to be clear i have no seen the documents and have no received any classifie briefings about them but my sense is that this hour stephanie, the intelligenc leadership and the - are trying to analyze whethe or not an insider put this out
these documents and jus reveal secrets about us. there s content in there about some of our allies egypt, israel. are you concerned this could damage our relationships wit those countries? i am. i mean, wow look, we weathered the snowden revelations. again, we weathered some of th other much more significan disclosures of classifie information. the republic has not fallen. stephanie, i do worry abou this because i think although lot of the assessments of th russia-ukraine war were really the kinds of things yo normally would hear it even unclassifie conversations. like, hey, ukraine is runnin out of ammo. hey, this is a frozen conflict hey, russia is going to have a field day in the sprin offensive unless ukraine can push russia back from th pre-february 2022 lines. a lot of the things we wer talking about in think tanks and unclassified conversations but to your point, it is reall the discussions about ou collection against our friends our friends in the middle east
what potentially was that in person s motivation or was thi potentially hacked by an outsider what was the method of exfiltrating that information? with these hard copies tha were walked out of the buildin in somebody s bag? and then photographed, taken a uploaded to the web? always this information that was somehow circulated to wide range of people and somebody got hacked i don t think we know that yet we don t know the motivation we don t know the source and that s making it very hard a this moment to determine the damage to this because we don t know whethe or not, for example, they ar going to be other shoes to drop okay. if this is a flood, shouldn our government have a dam? where the safeguards to preven this from happening, a irrelevant of what motivated the person or people to push this out definitively, we should hav had safeguards in place to prevent this after the snowden revelation in 2013, and after even a much more significant vault seven leaks in 2017, which many