the special counsel s decision not to charge trump s six co-conspirators could afford them an opportunity to cooperate. five of the six have been identified based on testimony from the january 6 committee and other records. an unnamed and unidentified sixth co-conspirators was included as well. joining me now, devlin barrett and peter baker. i want to skip ahead in a way from that, which we will get back to. peter, you wrote a book. you know so much about donald trump, the way he has acted when he has been under pressure. a couple of new posts on social media that he is doing this for you was one. he needs another indictment to
focused on the case because of the multiplicity of the cases against him and more to come? i think one thing is if this case is the first one to be addressed in the trial, that will help a lot. but i think that we always have to remember that as serious as these other charges have been, this is something that could have caused us to live in an autocracy and may yet again because donald trump is running for another term. such a lack of transparency, not only is it a federal court, but a federal court where there are only 11 seats for journalists, period. terrible. and there is an overflow room, but that itself is also limited. there has been an issue raised about cameras in the courtroom and the chief justice has spoken out against cameras in various courtrooms before. so seems unlikely that he would change his mind.
what the vice president has actually now said that he was told. so the vice president of the united states, which is remarkable, will be under oath in this trial testifying about it. and he has no motive to lie about this. i mean, this is something that he has tried to avoid talking about. he had tried to avoid testifying in the january 6 case. and then he did it to his credit, his duty when called to the grand jury to give testimony under oath. and in fact, michael, can we step back for a minute. the testimony and evidence is striking including a former vice president taking contemporaneous notes about the actions of the president he served and for a very, very long time served very well in terms of he had his back, mike pence had donald trump s back. what do you make of this moment in history as we did in-to learn more about the case and we are going to see donald trump entering yet another courthouse
and kent county. again, he was told this after he summoned our senate majority leader and our speaker of the house to washington, d.c., to an oval office meeting, where they were browbeaten by the likes of rudy giuliani and sidney powell on encouraging them to do something illegal, which was to undermine the certification process in our state. was told time and time again by those individuals and by many others here in michigan that what he was asking could not happen because it was illegal to do so. again, i think it s a very strong case. for those people still supporting donald trump, i don t think it s because they don t think that what the allegations are really occurred. it s that they don t care that those things really happened,
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