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Mary Ellen Jordan represents and counsels employers in civil rights, immigration, and other employment related matters.

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in spending in 1980 on jails and prisons to $80 billion today. civil rights lawyer, brian stevenson, is one of the nation s leading prison reform advocates. i think we have hundreds of thousands of people in prison who are not a threat to public safety. but is it about safety, or is it about punishment? i think we have created a culture that makes it entirely about punishment. and you might be surprised who else thinks mass incarceration is a problem, the people who run louisiana s prison system. and i think nation-wide, we lock up people too long and too many of them. seth smith is the director of operations for louisiana s department of corrections. it s not working. it s not giving us the results that we want. it s costing a lot of money. we send people to prison that aren t necessarily a danger to society, and then we keep people that their time for danger is over. they re no longer a threat.

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