i want to know what the president means. i would think twice before calling myself a nationalist, particularly in this political environment. our guest is a former u.s. am always about do ambassador to russia. who understands the places in which nationalism can be dangerous. it s a different thing than patriotism, ambassador. it is. just a simple test. just when you say that person is a nationalist. what are the historic figurings that pop into your head? you don t have to answer right now but to your viewers, just think about what that word does. your notion of a dog whistle. who pops in your mind when you hear the word nationalist ? and i think it s very important, the distinction you just made between pat thrriotpatriotism.
protect americans with pre-existing conditions. you think californians are rioting over the sanctuary city issue, where? many places in california want to get out. rioting? it is rioting in some cases. where are the riots? why is he saying things that aren t true? i don t think he is. i think the president is laying out a clear case of the difference between republicans and democrats. they have a word. it sort of became old-fashioned. it s called a nationalist. i say, really, we re not supposed to use that word. you know what i am, i m a nationalist, okay. you re suggesting there s some kind of dog whistle there? it is. it is. the story of the day, though, and that is the market sell-off. i think the stock market is worried. that congress will change and will overturn these pro-growth policyings. all right, lots to cover this morning. the president s been conspicu s
white nationalist, that s a very different thing. the definition defines a white nationalist as one of a group of militant whites who espouse white supremacy and advocate enforced racial segregation. also known as racist. i think donald trump knows that. it s a bit of a dog whistle or maybe a single to white nationalists that he supports their goals or was it simply he s confusing nationalism with patrioti patriotism. simply put, is this, love for or devotion to one s country. that s an admirable goal. maybe we just take the president at his word. he believes nationalism is based on the promise that the individual s loyalty and devotion to the nation state surpasses other individual or group interests. that, if you take the president at his word would explain his trade war, his sense that the u.s. shouldn t police the world and his call to seal off the southern border. his discussions about limiting legal immigration into the united states. i want to discuss this.
we teach the difference. patriotism is about civic nationalism. i have a flag in front of my house. i m a proud american. i want to see america perform well. but an ethnic nationalism divides our country. when i was listening to the president, i heard him speaking in ethnic terms. there s one other thing about globalism. he somehow has a theory that any time we enter into an international treaty or cooperate with another country, it s against america. and that s just not historically true. we don t sign up for treaties to help the globe. we sign up to treaties and cooperate with other nations to advance american national interests through cooperation rather than through confrontation. so he s just dead wrong about his theory of globalism versus nationalism. you could actually be a civic nationalist, a patriot and a