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Companies when these subsidies are available. And you have states. So you have to put it in 36b. So the argument, i guess, the government is making is what you should have done is put half of it in 36b and half it in 1321 which, of course, would have confused everybody. 36b would say, exchanges period. Then youd go to 1321 and say when we said exchanges in 36b, we meant established by the state. Mr. Carvin, if i were a state official and i was trying to decide whether my state should establish an exchange, and i wanted to know whether individuals who enrolled in a plan on my possible stateestablished exchange would get a credit, where would i look . Exactly. The basic thesis here is these exchanges dont work without subsidies. Youve read 1311. Youve read 1321. Now youre going to go find out where the subsidies are. Thats 36b. Theyre hypothesizing state i think not, mr. Carvin. I mean, i think the place i would look to find out about my choices is in the provision of the statute that ta

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