parenthood and there s kind of a serious listenership drama at its core as well so i think if you get past the gore, you are in luck. that s a good warning was to be to get past the gore. let s hold that thought because a quick thought about the midi instrument because of really entering the commandery is out. , . , really entering the commandery is out. ,. , ., out. the rescue it is from the directors out. the rescue it is from the directors of out. the rescue it is from the directors of free out. the rescue it is from the directors of free solo - out. the rescue it is from the directors of free solo so - out. the rescue it is from the i directors of free solo so that the football team in the thai cave who were rescued and it really is an incredible story and they talked to two british men who were cave divers who had to kind of problem solve along with a lot of other people throughout the world they were trying to figure out exactly how to get these boys out. and it s a real le
continuing to get americans out. i am hearing is a sure you are back channel efforts from other folks and veterans who are doing what they can to privately get people out of there. are you confident that we will get out everybody that we promise we get to escape the taliban? no i am not confident. this is been a debacle of historic proportions and it did not have to be this way. when i was in the white house and with several national security advisors, secretary of state, ci directors, but i ve been working the afghan plan for the trump administration since february of 2017. and we finally had a plan that was a workable plan. there is not a perfect plan, but it is workable. and over 16 months ago, we put in place that would ensure that we had a peaceful solution to a series of gates on getting out of afghanistan. and the last gait was a government of reconciliation
people may use this instance to rethink whether or not this kind of common, just automatically grant top-secret clearance to formal officials make sense. neil: do you think that if the president hadn t made this move and it was a record of john brennan making the comment, because there have been others, that someone would have said along the way or given a top status as a cia, maybe it would not happen. maybe this guy does not deserve it? i think people would have frozen politically, it would have been the traditional move. clearly, the whole notion of keeping your clearance is predicated that you behave as though you are in office. and as an circumspect as you are if you are in office. no one wants someone with a clearance running around on tv making wild statements. unfortunately, whether it is through classified information or not, in terms of former ci directors, start saying things like that, it assumes that he
chilling effect on men and women in your line of work in the intelligence profession, let s say nsa or cia, 36,000 people in the fbi, how do they continue to try to keep their heads down? i don t think any of them are that concerned of whether they are their clearance after retirement. that s not really of consequence, what does send a message that not only the president of the united states denied the intelligence that he s being received from you but now he s going after your former bosses. now, you are seeing pa former fbi director and ktwo former ci directors who are now targeted by the president either in terms of administrative actions or firing. this sends an awful and chilling effect on the entire community. why would you want to serve in these organizations if you are not allowed to produce intelligence or if you are not allowed to be objective but you instead have to tell the