said that was so worrisome. the promise that they made i m sorry, that he made allegedly to the ukraine. carol has agreed to stay with us and right now joining us by telephone is the former ci arks d cia director john brennan. director brennan, when you heard rudy say as he said tonight, if what they are saying is true, it doesn t make any difference. he just becomes the latest person i ve heard recently to say in effect some form of the president can say whatever he wants. is that your understanding? well, i think rudy s defense and donald trump s comments in the tweet are belied by the very, very rigorous effort that the administration will be taking for th taking to prevent this whistle blower s complaint.