so the pastor with 22 years of army experience in his past tiptoed through the halls looking for him. and this glass here, i can see a reflection in the glass down the hall. so i was just looking down the hall without exposing myself. reporter: bob cleared rooms like the army taught him two decades ago before he fought in desert storm. i moved to these halls. then i moved down to the next one. reporter: then he says he heard him in the church s children s room. then i moved in around the corner and caught him at the entrance of the door right there. reporter: the man was holding clothes, usually used in church plays. bob grabbed him by the neck and took him down, remembering the army taught him don t leave a man on his feet. then i pulled him up. and we went back down the hall here to a place that i know that there is a telephone. reporter: sheriff s deputies arrested 47-year-old raymond shipley for burglary. he told bob he wanted to use the phone. things just didn