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Summer. Charlie i think you and ken burns formed a group. David yes. They were we were all saying pretty much the same thing. It was concern for the country. D concern about values and behavior, belief in the truth. Belief in tolerance. Belief in kindness and empathy. Charlie these are all things you think should be president ial qualities. Avid yes, i do. And i think a certain confidence is essential and you dont base your campaign or your attacks on our opponents using fear and ear and unkind actions and words. And it i think that what disturbed all of us who did that made that effort, the historians and biographers, is that a sense of history and understanding of history is essential in leadership. Leadership of all kinds. And that our most effective, most conscientious president s, t always the most talented orel quent, have been students of history. Charlie including those who ly whobeen universal have never been university educated. The one you know best is harry truman. David he

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