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An East Texas school district s flagpole raises questions about America s separation of church and state

No, the framers were not more about protecting religion from the state than vice versa

Transcripts for FOXNEWS FOX Friends First 20240604 08:27:00

southeast of you is fargo, north dakota, and the school board recently voted to ban the pledge of allegiance because of the word god and after serious public backlash they decided to reinstate the pledge. what do you make of the original decision to get rid of god to? i think that it is a misunderstanding of the church state separation. i think we are seeing the supreme court relook at what the original intent of the constitution was. you can see clearly that during that historical era, we were looking at not having a state, you know, imposed religion. but certainly, it was not to take god out of the public square, which is kind of the interpretation that had to be thinking on that. you can even mention the name god in public. but literally, that is not what the founding fathers of our country thought. carley: well, so many

Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Prime 20240604 08:41:00

regulations, they built a new test, there is a new test for church state separation, they built a new test. today, they built a new test, this weird major question for doctors that is going to be going forward how we think about regulatory agencies and we make the mistake of putting common law professors on this as if there is a new test today. there is no new test. the test is whatever the court wants, the police always win, the women always lose, the condemned always die and i think we make the mistake of treating this as doctrine, it s not doctrine, it s a checklist of what this conservative legal movement has always wanted. this is a big deal coming from you because you watch this very closely and you re not pessimistic and skeptical about the court typically. well, i am now. you are now. a lot of people who are in the same position they weren t before and they are now. dahla, thanks for being with us, regardless of where you stand on

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