committed and then there s the religious authority that looks at the whole person. and i think that pedophile priests need to be brought up on the charges in the civil realm and in the pastoral realm they need pastoral care as well. as well as the victims. that is true. and, dan, we ve got you back on the phone. i m going to toss this question to you, as well. i just asked francis, you know, how do you balance zero tolerance, a policy of zero tolerance for sex crimes within the church versus the church philosophy of forgiveness and redemption? well, as christians and catholics we always have to, you know, have that delicate balance, but in the case of abuse of children, in this case the cover-up of that abuse, there should be no tolerance. there can be no tolerance. and francis, you know, if you look at let s go outside the church, but if you look at
proven that the vatican bureaucracy does not know how to handle decisionmaking. dan, short of resigning, what do you do as pope? well, unfortunately, his resignation would not accomplish very much at this point because he would simply be replaced by another bishop or cardinal with simeone misguided loyalties whereby, you know, they look out for the good of the institution and not the good of the people of god. francis, i think we might have lost dan there via phone. we ll see if we ve got that connection still. but let me ask you, francis, you know, how do you balance zero tolerance for sex crimes versus the church philosophy of forgiveness and redemption? well, that s a tough question, and i think that we have to see that there are two governments or two authorities working here. there s the civil authority for the crimes that are being