on the federal side we call them evidence response members. blue shirts, fbi ert on the back collecting shell casings, any other type of forensic evidence inside and outside the church. what are the biggest questions you have right now? it always goes to motive because, again, as you try to get in front of these things, this is it s chilling and sobering that october 1st we had las vegas and that horrific tragedy, 58 people killed, 500 injured. last tuesday eight people killed mowed down on the west side highway. today we know that we re talking about 20 plus. the investigators and the folks are very careful right now about releasing the numbers but, ana, we know how this happens. we know that that casualty count is going to increase. and in a place with 683 people, they lost 3 to 4% of their population in this horrific event. we go to houses of worship for
you need to have situational awareness but it could be as something as simple and effective and important as knowing where the exits are. once the gunman came in and started shooting away people were confused as to where to run too and knowing where exits are is very, very important. was it important to note, sheryl, that this shooter apparently start theed firing even before entering the church. he was firing outside the church at the doors and continued to fire, does that provide any additional clue in your mind? we can speculate. there s no way to know. there s quite possible there was someone outside that he engaged and wanted to deal with that person to put them at a disadvantage or to prevent them from engaging him, right, if there was someone that he encountered outside, he dealt with them and he continued on. thankfully this next door neighbor was able to come out because it s not clear to me from the press conference whether it s this person s
unfolded. let me walk you through that in case you missed it. they have since learned as they pieced this together that there was a sighting of the gunman at around 11:20 this morning. the suspect was seen dressed in all black. we learned he fired from outside the church first and continued firing as he entered the church. we know the victims range in age from five to 72 years old. again, at least 26 people are dead. many others have been taken to the hospital. that suspect continued firing in the church and then eventually left. we understand a citizen grabbed his or her gun and returned fire and, in fact, pursued the suspect after the suspect left the church, the suspect was eventually found away from the scene and was dead. police don t know right now if he died from his own self-inflicted gun shot wound or from a wound sustained by the return fire from that citizen
targets. there are no metal detectors, no armed guards. we don t have that in the united states. this is a country that prides itself on protecting civil liberties and making sure our citizens worship where you want. inside that church no one would be expecting this. that s what makes it so degenerate. he came in, opened fire and left the church. what does that tell you? he didn t take his own life in that church. again, every one of these incidents, again, we talk about how it s far too often that we re needing to talk about these things, the paradigm has shifted where we ve noticed a recent trend in the last ten years that the need for negotiation, i m not saying negotiators are obsolete, you don t need to have hostage
tragedy that happened in texas today. we re also showing you images there of some of the scene from earlier. we know there were multiple life flights that responded to the scene to help evacuate some of those who were injured. we do know at least eight patients are being treated at one of the hospitals, university hospital in san antonio. again, at least 20 people who are confirmed dead. here s what we know as far as just the steps that happened here in sutherland spring this morning. it was around 11:30, in the middle of the 11:00 church service when a gunman entered the church and opened fire. we know he left the church at some point and was involved in a chase with law enforcement. that gunman is dead right now. we don t know if he took his own life or if he was killed by police. there is a heavy law enforcement presence on scene right now. this is a rural community about 30 miles southeast of san antonio so atf, fbi, they are