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it is still being stoked by former president trump who continues to claim that the election was rigged and stolen. so you do still have remnants of these groups who, you know, could be also paying attention to what the consequences of these convictions are. the message, i think that prosecutors are wanting to send is heroes do not typically get convicted of crimes in our country, particularly sedition. and so with the department of justice kind of hoping these sentences send a message about these consequences threatening democracy and certainly a federal sentence that would send these convicted insurrectionists into old age would be such a message. right, where do we stand come wearing this to the ohs keepers, comparing this to stewart rhodes, for instance, who is also no chump. this guy is a yale educated lawyer and knew exactly what he was up to. what s the similarities or differences in these proud boys, the anticipated sentencing of them versus the oath keepers and

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