we had them during the cold war, the height of the cold war when the u.s. and the soviet union were squaring off, but, chuck, we do have the ability to speak to china at high levels, and as i mentioned, secretary blinken spoke with his counterpart, the top diplomat of china wang yi at munich just a few days ago. so it is not just that all lines of communication are shut off, but rather, we do not have the military-to-military exchanges that we think are necessary to ensure stability. do we have anything scheduled with xi in a phone call in the near term? nothing scheduled at the moment, though, i anticipate the two leaders will speak at some point in the not too distant future. jake sullivan, president biden s national security adviser. as always, sir, thank you for coming on and sharing the administration s perspective. when we come back, there is a growing republican divide over aiding ukraine as we approach the one-year mark. are will those skeptics including some 2024 preside
they would make a decision to do this? what would be their strategic reason for doing it if they did it? it s a great question, chuck, because i don t think it is in china s interest to do this. i think it would alienate them from a number of countries in the world including our european allies, and it would put them foursquare into the center of responsibility for the kinds of war crimes and bombardment of civilians and atrocities. their weapons would, in effect, be used for the slaughter of people in ukraine. so i think it would be ill-advised for china to move forward, but, of course, that s a decision beijing would have to make for itself. other than saying there would be consequences for getting involved, you or anybody else has not laid out any specific consequences. why not? why not go public with what could be the consequences, whether it s on sanctions or weapons or troops to taiwan. why not lay it out in public?
legitimate criticisms of this administration s conduct supporting ukrainians. let me give you one that in particular being home in alaska really matters. you know, from the beginning of this administration, this administration s been focused on shutting down the production of american energy. as you know, chuck, xi jinping and putin fear american energy dominance, and so to have an administration to shut down energy and making it hard to move energy and pushing back on the ability to finance energy for america, this actually directly related to our efforts to push back against xi jinping, putin, and in many ways their energy policies have been national security suicide, and this is what frustrates
well, what president zelenskyy said there were parts of the plan he didn t like and parts of the plan that he thought could be okay. one part of the plan that i particularly liked was point one of the plan. point one of the plan was respect the sovereignty of all nations. the plan could just stop there because russia could end this war by respecting ukraine s sovereignty and pulling out, but what president zelenskyy also said and this is critical, chuck is that he would like to speak to president xi. china put forward this plan without having had a single conversation since the war began between president xi and president zelenskyy. the chinese have talked to the russians a lot, but at the most senior levels they ve not talked to ukrainians. it s very difficult to advance any peace initiative when there is that one-sided diplomacy going on. from our perspective, the critical thing is any peace plan offered by anybody has to involve the input of ukraine as president biden has cons
and scan the qr code on the screen right now or go to the chuck toddcast. that s all for today. thank for watching. we ll be back next week because if it s sunday, it s meet the press. if it s sunday, it s meet the press. be back next week becaus if it s sunday it s meet the press. think about what just happened ore the last three years. one of the biggest pandemics in a century, a lot of evidence that it s coming from the chinese, and when other countries even raise it, like australia, the chinese use their course of economic activities to shut people up. look, this is a country that has