apropos that president trump said this was fake news, he said fake news doesn t produce real deaths. there were real repercussions from this dossier. quite a few other things that happened to steele s sources, that may have been steele sources in russia. does that explain some of the state of mind that describes steele feeling potentially that his life may have been in danger or he needed to take steps to protect himself? it explains why he s so careful about not speaking. his lawyers have told him not to talk to the press and he s had to be very, very careful about his life, his family s life but also about his sources. i mean, these are people he s worked with for many years. this is they didn t just come out of the wood work for this one task which was to do this investigation of trump. these are people who have worked with him for all kinds of assignments on many other cases, as well.
there is also this great revelation about why this particular guy was so well positioned to do this research beyond the fact he had been the top russia guy for mi 6. quote, even before steele became involved in the u.s. campaign, he was convinced that the kremlin was interfering in western elections. in april 2016, not long before he took on the fusion assignment, he finished a secret investigation he called project russian interference in france, italy, the u.k. germany and turkey. the report chronicles persistent political interference by the kremlin, social media war fair also opaque financial support in the form of bank loans, gifts and support. the report discusses the kremlin s entanglement and the french right-wing leader. it suggests that russian aid was given to lesser known right wing nationalist in the u.k. and elsewhere. the kremlin s long-term aim was
erovinkin was found dead in his car. no official cause of death has been cited by jane mayer continues, no evidence has emerged that oleg erovinkin was a source for christopher steele and mueller is believed to be investigating a different death that is possibly related to the dossier. a different death. jane mayer, you re making me crazy. joining us now is jane mayer from the new yorker magazine. jane, congratulations on this scoop. it is killing me. thank you so much. great to be with you. so i have a few different there is obviously a lot here, a lot of new material and a lot of stuff nobody else reported and i want to ask you about it. let me start with the reporting about the memo from steele after his fusion gps contract ended. it was produced in late november after the election in 2016 and it was based on a russian source suggesting that the kremlin had had a hand in casting the u.s. secretary of state for the trump administration. what else can you tell us about that repo
were paying fusion who were paying steele to do this work and presumably owned his work product, why didn t they know? it was staggering. it s the opposite of the conspiracy theory that devin nunes and chuck glassly grassley have been pushing. you have the campaign paying for steele s research but steele went to the fbi and didn t tell them about that and as it blossomed into a huge investigation at the fbi, the whole thing was kept secret. so the campaign, they may have gotten word through the grapevine that he had gone to the fbi in the very beginning but they had no idea there was a parallel investigation of trump going on during the summer when the campaign was being beaten up about the fbi investigation.
and interestingly, they are his sources and subsources, many were known to the fbi because steele worked with the fbi over the years on a number of cases and the fbi had a lot of confidence in him and in these sources, his network. jane, if you don t mind sticking around, there is one other matter i m desperate to ask you about and something i ve been wondering about since the clinton campaign was paying for steele s investigation. why didn t they use this material during the campaign? you got good reporting. do you mind sticking with us? i ll be happy to. be right back. t of drugs that can prevent the rejection and prevent the recurrence of the original disease. i never felt i was going to die. we know so much about transplantation. and we re living longer. you cannot help but be inspired by the opportunities that