Actually go to the page itself to find out more. Here we go and i would like to introduce you to father john kittredge. Father john, welcome great to be here again with you, chris. You recently have written article that will be published in the San Francisco newspaper and there is a great introduction to what we are going to talk about. Would you let us know the gist of it i just point out that in select dealers society, we get a lot of our views from Secular Society and they tend to follow trends. A secular culture does not necessarily mean that everybody believes it. Theres always counter cultures but over time they have an influence and they can have an influence on it institutions which could be positive or negative and i have an example that i use j think is good and it involves ice cream shops. Over the past 40 or 50 years, you know if you go into on of the shots shops they have a lot of toppings, brownings, cookies, other sweet things that you can have and that has been the tren