indefensible. inexcusable. it s quite clear what it was. everybody knows what it was. you are right about debbie wasserman schultz. she did an interview saying she and the president never lied about anything. i want to bring you to the blame game, leslie. some are blaming republicans for the entire obama care mess. i m seeing chris laugh. is that laughable? honestly, i don t feel the president is to blame. i don t feel republicans are to blame. i don t feel democrats are to blame. i don t think it s a political party to blame. i think clearly it s the people who designed the website to blame. it s bigger than the website. this is bigger than the website. you have democrats jumping ship. you have center lander introducing a bill, she s a democrat, introducing a bill that you should be able to keep the bill you had. you have joe manchin jumping shich. you have a whole list of democrats. this is deeper than website glitches, isn t it? forget about the website.