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that s fine. that s where the whole bizarre exchange, where he s talking about his son not wanting to say he loves him. it is odd, to say the least. by the way, he has an hour to spend with you, and the pandemic is breaking out all over the world. that s interesting too. very quickly, deputy chief of staff la del, there was almost this shadow transition he was conducting, even when donald trump didn t want to conduct a transition. yeah. i think this is a really important story and an unknown story, largely unknown story. chris ladel was in charge of the transition on the trump side. he was appointed to the job early in 2020, before the election. he was a deputy chief of staff. he d worked for donald trump the entire four years. he started on day one. he was there right until the very end. he conducted basically a clandestine operation out of a little office on the second floor of the west wing, where he was the one official in that

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