to go out of what was being decided, which is really how much of anything he owed her he was still denying the heart of the allegation the point that tran20 s attorney made yesterday as he was being cross-examined that, was that there was another trial in and trump did not show up or testify, he did not even go to the courtroom, which he has since said it was because his attorneys advised him to do so, but the attorney saying he could have come for that trial. and of course we are seeing how it has ended up, no surprise that he is going to appeal this but also revealing how angry he is about how much with the situation where he is going to have to potentially pay e. jean carroll 2 lies that president biden had anything to do with the defamation suit, he did not , zero evidence there is of that , and 2nd of all that this is anything to do with first amendment rights, the department amendment to the u.s. constitution, allowing for more freeze than almost any other country on ea
of the faith in politics pilgrimage. so let me just ask the obvious first question. why is a senator from delaware in tulsa this morning? i m here as part of a congressional delegation. as you know well, faith and politics is an organization long led by our dear friend congressman john lewis of georgia. most years we would go on a pilgrimage to historic sites from the civil rights movement in alabama. we also went on other pilgrim pilgrimages. today, we are here in tulsa to participate in the commemoration of the centennial, the 100th anniversary of the most brutal race riot, a massacre that happened right here in greenwood.
history books for us. i see black bodies in the street, i smell smoke and see fire. i still see black businesses being burned. i still hear airplanes flying overhead. i hear the screams. i have lived through the massacre every day. our country may forget this history, but i cannot. that s mother fletcher. welcome back to the sunday show. it s been 100 years since the prosperous black community was destroyed by a white mob in tulsa, oklahoma. they killed up to 300 people, destroyed hundreds of businesses and left 10,000 people homeless. this weekend, residents are ensuring this dark history is never forgotten with parades, prayer and activism. chris koonz joined me from tulsa where he is participating in the remembrance activities as part
folks on the ground have been tell meg that many powers in this community are using the remembrance of the massacre to draw money and to fund-raise but never put that into the community. that s what we saw with some of the division around some of the high profile events where the official commission brings $30 million and the community is saying, where is the pipeline into the community? we have survivors and we have communities suffering from what happened. i don t think it brought folks closer together. it has driven that wedge deeper. i cannot wait to watch your special tonight. it premieres tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. thank you for coming. don t go anywhere. we have senator chris koonz and the descendents of the most important freedom fighters of the 20th century coming up on
washington is still reeling this morning between defense secretary james mattis resignation and this looming government shutdown. joining us now we have chris koonz of delaware. you re a busy man, senator. we appreciate you taking the time. we should note you are in wilmington, delaware. what train are you getting on to haul your way back today. i m hoping i will be on the 8:34. but if we have a longer conversation, i will be on the 8:51. okay. i will try to keep it snappy in that case. so what s happening with this government shutdown? is there anything that could any