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divert attention from the real agenda. it is a tenuous situation, but the colonel is exactly right. human intelligence, signal intelligence is going to be key. at the end of the day, we have to find out who pushed that button. what kind of a process, rick, is that? i mean, how long of a process are you thinking we re looking snat do you think it s actually possible? you re talking about human intelligence, getting on the ground in a rebel-held region, talking to locals about what they saw. they re not going to cooperate. right. there s no way you re going to get permission to go in there and talk to the locals, even if there s a police investigation. they re going to make is so, so difficult. you re going to have to do this clandestinely. always difficult, always takes a long time. i would be surprised if we have the capability to do it. the ukrainians might. rick francona, appreciate you being on. chris heben as well. i ll be back live, 8:00 p.m., a special two-hour edition
practice up for the business trip. fly to florida. win an award. close a deal. hire an intern. and still have time to spare. check your speed. see how fast your internet can be. switch now and add voice and tv for $34.90. comcast business. built for business. well, it s been four days since malaysia flight was shot down. finally the russian-backed rebels are given the experts nearly unfettered access to the site. now, it s not an easy task, no matter what. chris heben, a former u.s. navy s.e.a.l., joining us live. you ve negotiated with rebels in africa, pakistan. how tricky are those negotiations? you re dealing with uncertain
stripped of its legalese, we have authorized, congress has authorized the use of military force to fight al qaeda all through the middle east. you don t get immunity as an american citizen if you join up with our enemy. he was a military figure on the al qaeda side. so he was a legitimate target. that s the core of the argument and the memo. chris, i don t know how much you re allowed to say, given the years that you spent, doing the kind of work that you navy s.e.a.l.s do, s.e.a.l. team 8 member. i won t press you for those kinds of details. effectively, there are people watching right now who say who the hell cares, if there are bad guys like that, this is a cheap and efficient way to get rid of them instead of sending battalions and gear and taking on losses and blood. does it feel like that s the right thing to do? i would agree with jeff 100%. this guy was responsible for motivating so many people to do ill will against americans. not just soldiers but citizens all over the mi
by a drone strike. that happened in 2011. he just so happened to be an inspirational figure to terrorists worldwide. and his death has opened the debate on when or if the united states government has the right to use drones to kill an american citizen, even one as awful as awlaki. three people who have a very unique perspective. cnn senior analyst jeffrey toobin knows a lot about constitutional law. former navy s.e.a.l. and iraq and afghanistan combat veteran chris heben who knows a lot about these kinds of attacks. and also cnn commentator, legal analyst, mel robbin, a lawyer herself. jeff, i ll start with you. this is a big memo and you have read it thoroughly. it doesn t seem to be the legalese that i expected would come out to make the case for a summary execution of an american citizen who, up until now, i kind of thought enjoyed constitutional protections. i actually thought it was a pretty straight-forward memo. the heart of the memo is,
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