how that fits into a legal framework of this investigation is something that we re very interested to see. yeah, those counterpunches and that relitigating of past grievances we were speculating in the first block tonight will not be allowed in the format of the interview with mueller and his team, we re guessing. gentlemen, terrific discussion tonight and thank you both for coming on. chris and ron, we ll invite both of you back. coming up for us, the conspiracy theories making the rounds largely on the right, and how they fit in the effort to defend this president. p, he s g he thinks it smells fine, but his mom smells this. luckily for all your hard-to-wash fabrics. .there s febreze fabric refresher. febreze doesn t just mask, it eliminates odors you ve. .gone noseblind to. and try febreze unstopables for fabric. with up to twice the fresh scent power, you ll want to try it. .again and again and maybe just one more time. indulge in irresistible freshness.
have been magnified in recent days, certainly in repeated and, you know, ad infinitum, so these are challenging times for the fbi and it does impact us all. thank you for that honest answer. that is helpful in our understanding. and chris, from all the threads from just today, we ve got flynn, we ve got now trump and cobb and bannon. what stands out to you? what s your lead tonight for tomorrow? well, there s one thing that the president said today that stood out to me. he sort of addressed the obstruction issue, and he seemed to conflate the idea of him trying to fight back against his critics and his opponents with being accuses of obstruction of justice and that people were saying, oh, he was obstructing where really he was just fighting back. he often fancies himself as a counterpuncher, and whether or not that kind of approach to campaigning and governing and
his innocence. thought he had nothing to hide. and so he welcomed them. is that kind of the collection of attributes? you know, i think that those are a number of the elements, and here s the risk. and frankly here s the risk that i see down the road for potentially the president himself, is that you overestimate yourself and you underestimate those fbi agents knocking on your door. very often they are fully informed of facts and details and circumstances, very often they may let you tell the first initial story in its entirety that may be riddled with lies, and then they will loop back and an start to challenge you one after the another on the lies and things can go downhill from there. chris, you have profiled former general flynn. what about the flynn you have profiled fits the profile of a guy who says to the fbi, yeah, sure, come on over, i ll listen to whatever questions you have?
council typically would be informed of such a meeting and be present for it, one person said, but that didn t happen in this instance and flynn didn t include his own lawyer. he met with the two agents alone. with more on this, chris greggarian for the los angeles times covering the investigation and ron, former assistant director of the fbi and current president of the law enforcement legal defense fund. gentlemen, welcome to you both. ron, how does this work? you get the guy on the phone. we d like to come over and talk to you. are you vague at that stage and are you, frankly, amazed when you walk into his office, just him, no lawyer? in this certain situation i am. yes, i would be purposely vague. we would like to come talk to you about some matters of mutual interest. can you put us on to your schedule? can you work that out into your schedule? is there a time that s convenient for you? as low-key as i possibly could