surveillance of china is much more aggressive. and importantly, again, mike, no reaction yet from china on the downing of their balloon. it s just turned 5 a.m. in beijing. we ll obviously be watching for any official statements from beijing as the evening goes on. mike? mike: ryan chilcote on the diplomat diplomatic fallout on this incident. many thanks. arthel: a chinese spy balloon obviously straining an already tense relationship. joining us now, gordon chang, senior fellow at the gatestone institute and author of two the book, the coming collapse of china, and the great u.s.-china tech war.. boy, i bet you have a lot to say. what is china up to? why did they float this i humongous balloon other our air space, and do they care that it was shot down? well, they certainly care that it was shot down because that is a humiliation of china,
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and division. . turning now is gordon chang gates don t institute senior fellow and author of the great a us china tech war. gordon, i listen to this conversation and is a is a committee to focus on competing with china racists. absolutely not. yowe ve got to remember that in may 2019, people s dailypeople actually declared a quote unquote, people s war on america swo. and since that time, china s the chinese war on america, chinese war on america,americ and since that time, china hasan killed americans with covid-19 and with fentanyl. drugnow that tiktok glorifies drug use, promotes criticalth race theory.ese ha we know thatve the chinese have been fomenting violence on ourut streets. not to form this committee would be racist because the only reason you wouldn t do it would be because of the race of the attackers. twe re being attacked. and you re not a psychologist or psychiatrist t or psychologist. but why do youhi think younk hav e members of congress would push