thank you. so the european union wants a lot more childcare to be made available, but it s not something you can just turn on like a tap. in fact, it s one of the most regulated businesses you can run. so what are the challenges for those who do run childcare businesses? the netherlands based company partou has 900 centres, it employs 9,000 child carers who look after some 70,000 kids. jeanine lemmens, the big boss of partou. a real pleasure having you on the show. jeanine, can we start with this, because the european union wants to see more affordable childcare so, well, so more kids can go to care centres. the eu has asked countries to agree to more ambitious targets. do you think these are achievable? well, in order to achieve the eu targets, individual member nations need to address the infrastructure and the provision that already exists. and the difference are really huge at the moment. overall, the childcare sector in europe is in its infancy.