attorney imin chigan barb, thanks for being with us tonight. super helpful. thank you, rachel. thanks. we ll be right back. stay with us [friend] i ve never seen that before. i have.
does it matter, barb, if the attempted intimidation or pressure does it matter if it works? it does i m asking because of michael cohen cancelling his testimony this past week before congress, saying that he was too intimidated by the president s remarks. he felt that his family was in defense of marriage act. yeah, actually, it doesn t matter whether it works or not even the attempt alone is enough so even if the person stands firm and decides to go through with it anyway, what the person did to try to intimidate them, to persuade them not to testimony is itself a completed crime. when you look at this indictment today, barb, obviously one of the things that jumped out for me is that it appears mr. stone had never had any contact with the special counsel s office before this indictment today he was charged with lying to congress and with witnessing tampering with a witness who could potentially undo the allegedly false cover story that he gave to congress. that really