to get under it. you could tell there was some debris as well as some logs and things burning. other members of chief schott s team told us when they got to the team they did see recognizable pieces of plane debris and one of them said it was no bigger than your arm. they also saw human remains there and they said that the plane left a noticeable crater in the mountain, and from the contours of that crater, they believe that the plane went in at a steep angle and there wasn t a gradual descent. investigators are looking to see if, if they can find a black box with a flight data recorder. if they can find that it would obviously provide invaluable information in this investigations. we are told these planes are not required to be outfitted with those, but some are outfitted with them anyway. they re hoping, of course, that they find one, jim. you look at that scene and you feel lucky it was in a
airspace, crashed soon afterwards. cnn brian todd is near the crash site in vesuvius, virginia. brian, there are a lot of questions here. how it went down and what might have happened in the cockpit prior. what do we know from the crash scene so far? well, jim, we were just updated by a local sheriff who told us that ntsb and faa investigators are still at the site of the crash. that is several miles deep into these mountains behind me. it takes hours to get in and out of that crash site and it is an arduous trek. we spoke to greg schott, the chief of the augusta county and fire rescue department and his teams were the first teams to get there last night. this is what he told us about what it was like to get to the scene and what it was like when they came upon it. very hard to get to. a lot of overgrowth and they had areas where they had to get on their hands and knees and crawl
On Wednesday, the La Crosse Fire Department hosted a focus group with community stakeholders. The Minnesota group, Ethical Leaders in Action, ran the session.