from the reports we re getting, broken pieces of reports, you had communication with 911 operators that there were children or seriously injured victims inside and there needed to be a clear decision, whatever you need to term it, active shooter, barricade, there s bolgs loss of life, whether it s child or adult, human life at risk and a decision needs to be made to aggressively approach the suspect. chief ramsey, we received information of dispatch call to 911 from a child inside the school. how does something like that come through, with that, i mean would that go to the officers who were on the scene? well, i mean, it should. someone should be receiving that kind of information. but that s why the doj investigation is going to be so critically important. until we have that independent investigation where we get actual timelines of verified facts, and hopefully they ve already notified all agencies to
certainly. although control is an aspect of the situation so it neutralizing the threat, whether taking them into custody, using deadly force, the more the active shooter has to continue more deaths or serious injury can be accumulated. so we train them to bypass it. in previous situations, i don t want to name specifically, where children were reaching out, grabbing responders as they were advancing through and we drill that into officers and students that you need to go by and locate and isolate and neutralize the threat in whatever means necessary. i mean that has got to be the toughest job for a police officer, you know, to do that, knowing that it s going to potentially save more lives. chief ramsey, what happens here next? i mean you have this, this police officer who is not responding to authorities who are investigating that. does that, you know, does that hamper the investigation? well it slows it down. but i would not be surprised if
going. i heard chief ramsey on earlier saying it s not going to stop we have to do something. yeah. you re right. we have this conversation over and over and over again. here we go again. another day. ten incident people lost their lives for absolutely no reason, for going to the grocery store. 18 years old, live streamed this and had this manifesto that he published online. what kind of insight can this give us? it can show state of mind. you need evidence. i do believe that you have to be sure that everything is solid as
showing up on twuitter and it looks like it might have started inside a train car coming to the station. this is another important aspect of it and that s why the police department is asking for those videos to try to piece this together, where the person got on. i mentioned this earlier and this is something extremely important but you have so many different units and if they have to, they can always pull and call them into work. that is something else that s at their disposal and part of having a huge police department like they have. i mean, we have a large city that responds to all kinds of things and remember, the cops are still out there answering 9-1-1 calls and everything else. this is a huge response and as it should be, but they re going to look to start to lessen that out a bit and go across different avenues because we re going to have to start collecting video and evidence all across this entire line of subway cars. i want to bring back in chief ramsey and chief ramsey,
on with cnn law enforcement analyst the former philadelphia police commissioner and former d.c. police chief chief ramsey. thank you so much for joining us. as you heard, the suspect has already shot three police officers, he s believed to have multiple weapons. how dangerous is this standoff right now? well, it is incredibly dangerous. i mean he s already shot three police officers. we don t know what he did prior to the encounter with the police. and now if he is in fact heavily armed, barricaded in the home, that is certainly a very dangerous situation. hopefully there is no one inside of the home with him. i don t know if that is the case or not. i m sure that the s.w.a.t. team and the negotiators are trying to find out exactly what is going on right now. but if they have him located and isolated, at least they have him pibbed down and we ll see how it unfolds. so what do they do next? they re going to try to contact him, that is the first step to have some kind of negotiatio