your team, i can tell you. because he s a nerd? what does that mean? that s incredible. i think that s what he s say persian gulf. not very nice. go ahead, willie. i m all for the fast food, i love all the food groups on the table there but there s one glaring omission there, and that s chick-fil-a. it has to be at the center of the table. when morning joe does this, we ll have wendy s, mcdonald s and burger king, you have to have chick-fil-a and water burger and you need to have taco bell. chick-fil-a and we ll even throw in white castle for the yankees. home of the whopper. oh, yes it is. there s an amazing photograph of the president standing over the food. if you look at the wide shot, the portrait of lincoln is
there is no doubt in my mind that michael cohen is going to be indicted and face some very, very serious charges. there s no doubt in my mind that he s going to try to trade or flip on this. here with us tonight, mimi rocah, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, now a distinguished fellow in criminal justice at the pace university school of law and msnbc legal analyst. and josh gerstein, senior white house reporter for politico. questions i didn t think i d be asking on an 11:00 news show on msnbc a couple years ago, but let s talk about tom arnold. let s. he s hinting in an awful lot in an interview on this network earlier tonight, on cnn, hinting in that clip and other parts of that interview, his antics we played seemed erratic, the incentive he has to hype interest in this special he s got coming out seems obvious. i m a layman legally. i m curious watching that interview tonight, watching these interviews, what did you make of it?
with what his base is looking for? well, his base is looking for exactly what the president did today. he took that message of america first and really made it something that was about whether or not you support these asking the question really, do you support migrant kids in cages, or do you support families whose loved ones have allegedly been killed by undocumented immigrants? he posed that question to his base. they chose they choose america. they choose this idea that you have to not look at these kids in cages and be appalled, that you have to instead pivot and look at these families. the fact that he continually said these are families that are permanently separated from their loved ones, making light of the fact that being separated from your child for a month or two months or even eight months in some cases, that that s not as hard as your child being gone forever. so there s this idea that he really wanted to get back to his roots because this week was really, really to
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he was open to talking with them about it, but that those discussions had not progressed to the point that anybody could describe as actively cooperating. and i think there was one point in that interview tonight when arnold said something to the effect, paraphrasing here, of, hey, i m overselling this interaction with cohen a little bit, but he s underselling it. he s very much underselling it. cohen is very much underselling it. so i think arnold had said something to that effect at one point. josh, related to the issue of michael cohen, then, and the legal situation he finds himself in, there were also some court filings, or there was a court filing today that shed a little bit more light on the documents the government now has in its possession. what can you tell us about that? i think mimi was alluding to it just a moment ago. it talked about the judge and the special master s decision on how many information is privileged here. what was fascinating in this order that judge wo