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Yes, they are interesting in that regard. Its really sort of speaks to the selfconscious mission of creating a particular kind of leadership. West point is really remarkable in that regard. Those institutions come up in debate. Thomas jefferson who helped bring west point into being also was in support of a National University although he thought we needed a constitutional amendment to establish that and he speaks of west point in much of the same way although west point for jeffersons most important in its scientific terms at the time when the Scientific Development that will come out of it. At a place like west point, encourages maybe too strong a word but its a genuine liberal Arts Education and that means that while we want to cultivate certain understanding of politics in certain habits of mind that will be essential for leadership, part of those habits are going to be very openended and subject to serious questioning and thats something that those who think about the National Uni

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