think at this effective, climate change. do you think at this point effective, climate change. do you think at this point it effective, climate change. do you think at this point it is effective, climate change. do you think at this point it is being i think at this point it is being taken seriously, where there should then be an overhaul of the way in which we operate in our systems and thinking? because as you say, it may just appear like it is fish dying, but this has major implications on us and our livelihoods and our whole environment, oursystems. absolutely, yeah. environment of degradation is very serious, in that sense, and it is taken scarcely in the sense that governments have targets taken seriously. only 16% of our rivers are in good status in england. none of our rivers are in good chemical status. we are putting in dangerous chemical subject to go through the food chain and can impact humans, so professional policymakers are aware of the problem and they set t