poppy. but expecting to get paid by government agencies, private companies hit? we have seen private companies pay. right, yes. some companies do pay because they don t want the publicity. they don t want the hassle of cleaning up the mess. the fbi discourages them to do so because it feels more hacking campaigns. in the case of the government agencies in the u.s., the hackers kind of cheekily put on their website, don t worry, we deleted the government data. we re not going to sell that or anything. so it s kind of a cheeky nod to the fact they re saying they re in the systems but don t come after us, poppy. sean, thanks for the great reporting. with us here cnn national security analyst, a former assistant secretary. julie, when we look at where we are, cheekily we deleted