ask yourselves, all things being equal, if the roles were reversed, and it was 28-year-old george zimmerman walking home in the rain with a hoodie on to protect himself from the rain, walking through that neighborhood, and a 17-year-old driving around in a car who called the police, who had hate in their heart, hate in their mouth, hate in their actions, and if it was trayvon martin who had shot and killed george zimmerman, what would your verdict be? that s how you know it s not about race. imagine, he was saying, if their roles were reversed here.
because he didn t like the kind of candy he was carrying. but it was because of how he looked and how he was dressed. but at the end they came back and they told this jury, look at the evidence. look at the facts. doesn t matter if it was george zimmerman, if it was trayvon martin. right is right and do the right thing. don lemon, i know you have some thoughts. how effective do you think this closing argument was? well well, listen. i m just going to be honest here. as someone who i haven t watched this from gavel to gavel as you say. i m a layperson here. i m watching all the legalese and hearing all of you talk about this. to pretend that emotion is not part of a trial or jury is, i think, just completely disingenuous. people go into a jury room and they decide based, yes, upon facts. but human beings are not devoid of emotion. and so they also base their decisions on emotion as well.
i can t work. i just have to wait. and it is the worst thing, i guess it s sort of like waiting for a child to be born or something. you re just waiting and you just don t know. you re anticipating it, fearing it at the same time, of course. but, no, you don t do anything but wait. i don t think there s anything else you can do. reporter: that waiting is under way. it began at 2:30 for mark o mara. and certainly for george zimmerman. by the way, mark o mara, no surprise here, says, yes, he will be writing a book. brianna? not surprising there. i m sure many people, most of the folks involved in this case, are playing that terrible waiting game right now. martin savidge, great interview. thank you for that. coming up, our experts will debate that interview. plus, you ll hear from one of the people that mark o mara blasted throughout this trial, benjamin crump. he is the attorney for trayvon martin s family. we have that coming up as we await the jury s decision in the george zimme
couldn t hurt you. what they said was george zimmerman is exaggerating the extent of his injuries and that trayvon martin didn t use the concrete and the cement in the way that george zimmerman says he did. i think the state effectively pointed out in their rebuttal all of these lies and inconsistencies in his statements, including the injuries. and the defense did not effectively deal with that in their closing argument. i think this was a feeble attempt to do it. it just sort of fell flat. of all the things you can show sort of righteous indignation about and be disgusted about, that just didn t seem to be one of them. what do you think, trent? do you agree with that? you heard from the state, they pointed out zimmerman said he was hit dozens of times. 25 times. but they say the injuries on the back of his head were not consistent with that. you know, look. i couldn t disagree more, frankly. with regard to what tanya said, you know, with regard to all these inconsistencies we kee
i don t i don t discredit what he did. as long as he acknowledges that s exactly what happened. reporter: do you think that george zimmerman would have even been charged had ben crump not been pulled into this? no. ben crump or someone like him. because ben crump not gotten involved in the case, maybe for some good reasons to begin with, if he believed that there was something here that was being swept under the rug, then get on into it. i m very okay with that. reporter: but you didn t quite say it that way. you made it sound like it was ben crump, george zimmerman would be free at this time and we would not be in a trial. that s correct. i think it was a made-up story for purposes that had nothing to do with george zimmerman. and that they victimized him, they complained about trayvon martin being victimized. george zimmerman was victimized by a publicity campaign to smear him and call him a racist when he wasn t and call him a murderer when he wasn t. reporter: and so an