good evening, thank you for joining us commit is trey gowdyi and it is sunday night in america. every four years they tell us this is the most important election of our lifetime. usually it is hyperbole but sometimes it is simply logical in the sense it is the next election and therefore, the most important. but i will concede. this election cycle does feelspo disproportionatelyl. consequential. at a realossr crossroads. more people arre pe questioning democracy as a system of government. americans seem less interested in working things out and more interested in duking things out. so maybe 202t.4 is the most important election of our lifetime.efin regardless, it is definitely the next one. it is ten months away. joining us now are two old friends of the show, opinionm an washington times opinion editor and democratic strategists kevin wallin. charlie, you have tollu helvepe with this month. there are prominent republicans and conservatives who claim they will not suppor
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charlie just talked about that. the dynamics of this populist o guy who came out of nowhere in terms of the politics of donald trumpfolk las clashing at the nikki haley s of this world defense, pro kind of in the same mold ofd th rea ronald reagan national defense that don t necessarily describeo two donald trump and his populismtr.be s so we see that dynamic play out in t real time. it will be super interesting tod see because donald trump will b the nominee, who he picks to run with him trey: all right, charlie, kevin has made less than provocative prediction that president trump will be the nominee. he is certainly the prohibitive favorite right now and nothingbu but bolster of the former president. is there any scenario, anynd scenario wherein you think donald trump is not thrumpe nomo well my do think it is
and democratic strategists kevin wallin. charlie, you have tollu helvepe with this month. there are prominent republicans and conservatives who claim they will not support the ticket if nikki haley is thent vice president. so, i am just trying to ind s understand she s not your first second third or fourth choiceth both the source of disdain and i m hearing ite we more we willi support the ticket if she is on it. what where does that come from? f it has to doot o with the fact that you have ay guy like donald trump who hase l come along and represents this profound apathy and anger that a lot of voters feel about their government today.nt t then you have somebody like nikki haley that comes along, and she is very much a politician from central casting from sort of an old schoolf republican.repu the republican party is has very much moved on from that. that is somewhat reflective in the polls.lls.t in but in defense and it is funny how every four years we get the
i ve hadem a lot of disagreemens with nikki haley over thhesee yh owand i don t know which nikki haley which are up every day.he she is a different personic aldepending on what works for hr political agenda. trey: you know, kevin,a christie was a classmate of mine in college and i m not picking on her and not just her but somy republicans claim they will not support the ticket if nikki haley is on it. they wili hal support the tickeh essentially set home which helps biden rather than vote for her as vice president.e try again, i m trying to figure out why. do you know any progressives ogre say, you know what my might actually help donald trump because i dislike kamala harritu so much.it j it just doesn t make sense. buakt charlie smart, you try to help me. how w does that help? it doesn t. it is music to my ears as a democrat on your show. listen, i know ronald reagan s commitment very well. i think what you are seeing isac this fracturing oftu the republican party in real time.
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