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Security, certainly the military has used forms of encryption for decades. But can we can you give us a contemporary snapshot of how encryption used by government or nongovernment users protect us against cyberattacks today . We can start over here, please. I will answer the question, but im not at all the expert in this space. I think the other panelists are much more expert than i am in the notion of encryption and protecting our infrastructure. The one point i will say that i tried to emphasis in my Opening Statement is that we shouldnt forget about some of the changes that are happening in terms of the way that infrastructure can be accessed. I think we sometimes lose sight of the fact that phones themselves now are used as authentication devices. If you can break the encryption and get into the phone, that may be a very easy way to get into the power grid, to get into our transport systems, into our water systems. So its not just a question of the firewalls or the access. Its what

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