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represented delaware from 1973 to 2009. this, according to his lawyer bob hour. and some of the documents were from his tenure at the obama administration. now, doj also took some notes that biden had personally handwritten as vice president. this, again, according to his lawyer. neither the president nor the first lady were president during the search. the documents are part of a group of other classified documents previously discovered this month at biden s wilmington residents. also in november at a private office that he maintained out of washington d.c., after ending his tenure as vice president. the documents discovered before friday s search, by the doj, were all found by biden s lawyers according to the white house. we have a lot to break down, let s bring in our panel that will help us make sense of this. lisa rubin, legal analyst for the rachel maddow show. charles m. blow, and charles coleman. lisa, i will start with you. you have been following the in and outs of

Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 01:23:00

did it over here. two different juries, likely the same jurisdiction. you are talking about both being in federal court in d.c.. so a similar jury pool in terms of its makeup, i think that this creates a number of different challenges for jack smith, in terms of thinking about as a former prosecutor, i m like, how do i want to present this case to a jury without having that be a distraction that ultimately sunk the prosecution that i was trying to move forward with? charles blow, what questions do you have about the way that this case is currently being handled right now? if you were involved in this case and you are a special counsel, if you will, you would really have our sympathies, but what would you be asking and probing about with the way that these documents are being discovered, and as lisa pointed out, one, or perhaps some dating as far back to the presidents time in the senate? i just had to laugh because you said that i was a prosecutor for this case. i can t even imagin

Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 01:27:00

i joked around earlier that he was popping diet coax and doing the ymca at mar-a-lago tonight because the focus is not on him. he had a terrible week last week. he was sanctioned by a judge in florida for $1 million, and in a frivolous suit that he filed on tuesday. he s facing a hearing in fulton county about whether the grand jury report should be made public. he met with the new york dea last week. his legal troubles are just mounting and tonight, he feels some sense of equivalence with a guy who is sitting in the chair he believes should have been his. not equivalence that we would agree is legally equivalent, but there is some score settling that has gone on politically to the former presidents great joy tonight. in the court of public opinion. lisa, charles, charles blow, thank you so much, i appreciate you helping us break this down. thank you for your insight and analysis. coming, up we will discuss the continued rise in right-wing political violence with new mexico secreta

Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 01:26:00

fraught this entire situation is. and when they are determining whether or not to bring a case in either one of these criminal cases, a big consideration will not be just the legal, the law of it, the big consideration will be what this means for the country. and what does it mean if it succeeds. what doesn t mean if it fails? all of these things have political ramifications that are beyond them, because there is no precedent for what we are even talking about. as so many times over the last several years we have been put in this situation where the country is facing unprecedented challenges, i would argue that this is probably one more legal challenge that the department of justice is going to face, in which a lot of people will be watching closely and the consequences could last for generations. really quickly, because charles blow was talking about the politics of this, you mentioned that the former president is probably breathing a sigh of relief this evening.

Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 01:01:00

represented delaware from 1973 to 2009. this, according to his lawyer bob hour. and some of the documents were from his tenure at the obama administration. now, doj also took some notes that biden had personally handwritten as vice president. this, again, according to his lawyer. neither the president nor the first lady were president during the search. the documents are part of a group of other classified documents previously discovered this month at biden s wilmington residents. also in november at a private office that he maintained out of washington d.c., after ending his tenure as vice president. the documents discovered before friday s search, by the doj, were all found by biden s lawyers according to the white house. we have a lot to break down, let s bring in our panel that will help us make sense of this. lisa rubin, legal analyst for the rachel maddow show. charles m. blow, and charles

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