maybe having quite genuine concern, saying, hey, there might be some national security things, that you are going to spill over to the government that we should know about. i don t think there s any too fe naruous to read into. it s a difficult spoot to be in. and weather his motives were particularly sinister, is a hard question to answer. charles. final thoughts. i think that fishing is what was happening. they re fishing to find out what kind of new allegations are generation of games happen that they do know about. and are afraid are going to come out. i think we re looking at an incredibly corrupted administration to cover up their wrong doing and trying to distract with basically a shell game of this investigation into another investigation so that we have got too many investigation ask & it makes it harder for the american people to actually focus on what s important here. i think the american people are smart enough to see what s going on and they can see flew the trump adm
hopefully prevent crime or are we trying to build a case, and the problem that catherine talked about, peter struck is probably the exact wrong guy, base bod what we have seen from his text messages, the exact wrong guy to make that kind of decision as to what should be given over to the trump campaign. charles, your thoughts? you know, i think it s pretty ridiculous to even consider the idea that if you re investigating somebody, you re going to tell them you re investigating them. you know, you don t go to a mob boss and say hey, we re investigating you. so maybe you should stop doing things now. that s not how it works. that s not how police work police works. and i think it s clear, they followed the law and investigated what were clearly questionable contacts between the trump campaign and russia.. jim, where do you see things headed. go ahead. there wouldn t even be a concept of defensive briefing if
but this is not the kind of action that s really going to sit well with this judge. auto a very lawyerly response from the government. he didn t quite ask us for those transcripts as well. so they are going to buy their time here. but it s not going to sit well with this judge who seems to have lost patience. great stuff. thank you much. you re welcome. so the trump campaign was not warned that two aides were already under fbispace investigation during a between the 16 intel briefing. let s bring in the democracy for america charles chamberlain and doj former prosecutor. gentlemen, good evening. first, i d like to get your reaction to what my colleague just reported. what stands out to you. let s start with jim and then charles. l i think she s got a lot of good stories there. the one that kind much grabs me is the defensive briefing issue and there s always a question of are we going to alert people and
that were true. investigators don t want to expose where they re going with an investigation. but there is this concept of preventing crime from happening, maybe at the expense of a criminal or espionage case. sorry, what were you going to ask. what s your take on presented bpresentedprosecutes, releasingt transcript. well, a couple of thicks. joint defense agreements are actually pretty common. it s a scenario, where you re extending attorney-client privilege tie group much defendants or targets through their attorney so they can all digest the investigation that s happening around them. the tricky part of these is that when a person decides to cooperate with the government, they have to withdraw from that joint defense agreement want so inch suddenly knows, oh. this guy is not making the meetings anymore. he must be on team america. and that s what this phone call seems to be. and that decision was made by flynn. charles.
decision was made by flynn. charles? it is not common, the idea that doj is just ignoring the court order that requires them to submit the document. it is a narrative that they would fight with court and say we are not going to give you this document because we don t want to. that is not how it works. the court demanded document they need to give it up and the court has the responsibility to make those decisions in the doj has a responsibility to do it but instead we re looking at another step of attorney general william barr participating in covering up what is really happening here by not complying with direct orders. mike: the president has feelings for flynn and asked for a heads up if we knew anything damaging about the president. your reaction to that? that is the delicate walk,