that plan is dead in the water, so getting in front of the microphones is pointless, that s my read on it. basically said everything else we re we re talking about several others pieces of that dale, yeah? this shows the mind-set as they re negotiating. that medical devices tax, president obama said in the meeting yesterday that he doesn t consider that to be a core part of obama care. i think that s actually something that under different conditions, the white house would be open to making a change to, but it s just sort of this being under the threat of something, the fact that they would give in, even on something that they might already that they would separately give in on. they don t want to do it when it comes to it being in a way sort of like paying a ransom. they are on principle saying