by any administration, probably since 1995, in the dayton peace accord. so we are probably closer to each other in most of the parts that really matter. the differences are on what should the responses be. i would say this, i was impressed with chancellor schultz yesterday. i had the chance to meet him in hamburg a few years ago when he was the burgermeister of hamburg. and of course, he s moved up through the ranks of the spd, which is a complicated party in the german political scene. he has a challenge from his left flank, just the way president biden does also. but yet, he repeated over and over and over yesterday that he is in step with the united states, and so i m actually quite confident that germany in the end is going to apply the diplomatic and economic pressure on the kremlin that s needed to make the kremlin hesitate. retired lieutenant general,
only in the economic aid, that we can help coordinate the delivery of gas to keep europeans warm through the rest of the winter. that work is well underway, and president biden and chancellor schultz will discuss it further tomorrow when the chancellor is here in washington. last week i had senator rob portman, republican senator from ohio on, who i know has basically been in coordination in some ways on ukraine policy with the administration. and he said to me, it s his understanding in private that germany has given the united states assurance, that if putin invades ukraine, the pipeline is done, that they are willing to suspend the pipeline. but they won t say that publicly. will the german chancellor say that publicly with the president tomorrow? i ll let the german chancellor speak for himself, but the biden administration, at president biden s direction, has been absolutely simply clear on this.
attack on ukraine is still unclear. moscow continues to deny it plans to invade ukraine. meantime, the diplomatic efforts continue, with french president emmanuel macron visiting kyiv today, to talk about with russia s president with ukraine s president about a plan to end the russian threat, one day after macron visited moscow, where he met with russian president vladimir putin for five hours. after that meeting, putin said some of the proposals macron put forward could form the basis of future discussions. as macron and putin talked in moscow, president biden and german chancellor olaf schultz were meeting at the white house. the german leader said his country was absolutely united with the u.s. and other nato allies, and that, quote, we will not be taking different steps, but the president made it clear the nordstream 2 pipeline that would carry natural gas from russia to germany will not move forward if russia attacks ukraine, something the german leader did not take a stand on.
i think here s the good news. i think there s still a 25% chance that this can work out diplomatically. i was somewhat encouraged by president macron s visit yesterday. you ve seen the photos of him and putin talking at that gondola-sized table in the kremlin, but the good news is they were at a table together no matter how big it is, and i think there might be a path down the so-called normandy format, and, of course, another good point from my perspective was that yesterday chancellor schultz, yeah, there s the gondola table. chancellor schultz of germany in the white house having i think a good conversation by and large with president biden keeping that alliance unity as the best path that we have, frankly, towards a diplomatic settlement here. what would have to be a part that have package to appease vladimir putin, to say to him that he could come out of this
february 16th will be the day of the attack. good to be with you. i am katy tur. today the diplomatic efforts to avoid a conflict are being led by germany s new chancellor who will meet with vladimir putin in moscow tomorrow. even as the negotiations continue, more than a dozen countries are urging their citizens to leave ukraine as soon as possible, including the u.s., israel, britain and australia. only france has yet to withdraw its citizens, perhaps a sign the french government does believe there s still a way to avoid military action. we will see if that is changing now that president zelensky made