democrats are saying we need to pay our bills. people agree with that as well. the breakdown is, republicans are holding hostage the nations good faith and credit for their priority. this does not have to be that fight. they will use the regular budget process to cut, cut, cut if they convince enough people politically to do that. that s where the biden administration needs to focus. the hostage taking of republicans right now on americas credit. chairman steele, david jolly raises a point, i have been racing for the last three weeks, that is, speaker mccarthy s doesn t even have his own formal budget, but he s trying to three priorities. he does not even get through the regular budgetary appropriations process by holding the american economy, the global economy hostage by threatening to not raise the debt ceiling. agreed completely with you and david on that point. here is the rub, fellas, speaker mccarthy has the upper hand in this conversation. why? the narrative outside of
positively about how negotiations are going. after two negotiations, we still have no new progress. how is it going? and what are the sticking points in the negotiations exactly? i really appreciate the question. i want to start with saying, yes, i do serve on the budget committee, we have not seen a budget from the republican conference. i want to make that clear to the american people. they did not bring us a budget. it was a list of demands at the 11th hour. and so, when you ask, how am i feeling, how do i think it s going. it is always good when there is communication happening. i came from my state legislature, you have to keep the legislation open. however, what concerns me, and i think what concerns a lot of people in my home state of vermont is that, we should not give into a ransom note. i was listening to your interview with michael steele. and david jolly. they are absolutely right. we need to raise the debt
michael steele, former chairman of the rnc, msnbc political analyst, and host of the michael steele podcast. gentlemen, i can t think of two better people to talk to about this. there are so many people to talk about, let s just, senator tim scott, chairman steele. what lane is he going to occupy in his run for the nomination? i think you are going to see, tim, trying to occupy the old lane of the gop lean. park it back to the days of reagan, pocket back of the days of danny bush. 1000 points of light. talking about the country in sort of, an optimistic terms, but the problem is, it s going to be a hard contrast to the reality that donald trump is going to remind him of. now, here is the thing, i don t think donald trump goes after tim s got the way he goes after
i think mccarthy s problem one week from now, there is no deal with biden that he can pass republican votes. mccarthy is ultimately going to need house democrats to bail him out. that is exactly right. former congressman david jolly, former chairman of the rnc michael steele, thank you both for joining us this morning. okay. up next, so close, yet so far. that ceiling talks are back on with very little progress, and even less time to lose. congresswoman becca balint of the budget committee joins me live to discuss the sticking points. live to discuss the sticking points points subway just keeps upping their game. break it down candace. just look at the smashed avocado. made with only haas avocado and sea salt. ingredients like these make the subway series elite. that avocado s - got bravado. try the subway series menu. their tastiest refresh yet. so, you found the no7 then. it s amazing! hydrates better than the expensive stuff i don t live here, so i m taking this and whatever s