what the issue that it raises for me is why his campaign didn t foresee this. it s something that should have been a very obvious that was going to be a problem, this was something the democratic party changed their position on in the platform in 2016, hillary clinton made it one of her key positions of getting rid of hyde. so, you know, instead he was his campaign put out this idea this was central to his catholic faith and then, you know, 48 hours later he s changing his position. nia, does this say more about, a, joe biden, b, the democratic party or c, all of the above? all of the above. i m going with c. certainly it says something about joe biden, the people he surrounded himself with, too, i think to powers point there it is this sense of why didn t they foresee this? why didn t he foresee this? they sort of i think were thinking that he could stake out this centrist position, maybe others would follow who are also trying to stake out a centrist position in this campaign
centrist because the system is broke. how much evidence do we need with a $22 trillion debt, immigration program that we can t get fixed, healthcare crisis and education crisis? how much do we need to see in terms of the revenge politics every single day that is emblematic of both parties at the extremes not willing to work together. if a democrat should win the white house in 2020, take me out of the equation, is there any evidence that mitch mcconnell and the republican party is going to work with a democratic president? there s none. so what i m talking about is a centrist position. a centrist position is common sense solutions to finally fix all of these problems that have been with us. not only during president trump s two-year history, but way before that. neil: what makes you that either party, either branch would work with you? sure. well, first off, if we embrace
ignore it and you have to, to your point, wolf, defend their record and that s why the candidates are doing that. susan, are you hearing a message from these democrats that could appeal to independent voters right now? i think certainly especially when we think about sort of national security and foreign policy issues. you know, voters are actually focused on that in a way they haven t historically been. usually domestic issues really are at the forefront. they ve spent two years worrying about the risks of things like a nuke rclear confrontation are n korea, alienating our allies abroad. i think there s an opportunity here to take a far more centrist position in part because in the past taking out those really mainstream positions, support for nato, u.s. global leadership abroad, candidates haven t been able to score points off of that because everybody agrees. donald trump is so far outside the norm that actually just by taking very, very safe mainstream positions, you actually c
question i had. does this shutdown you know, the 94- 95 clinton shutdown is kind of hazy in history. is this the shutdown we remember for all the wrong reasons? also subset question, how are we ever going to attract people to work in government jobs again? it can be a noble calling, as you know. absolutely. the interesting thing about 95- 96 was that was a big idealogical question. basically clinton in some ways said to gingrich, you all say you don t want government. let s close it down. and gingrich did it. and they adjudicated it and the country decided they wanted the government. so we found ourselves in that kind of centrist position. this is very specific, right? there is this and donald trump has the remarkable capacity to make things peripheral central. it s why he s president again, is that he has he manages to
can we say persistently to make the case that these institutions are worth defending. so that helps answer another question i had. does this shutdown you know, the 94- 95 clinton shutdown is kind of hazy in history. is this the shutdown we remember for all the wrong reasons? also subset question, how are we ever going to attract people to work in government jobs again? it can be a noble calling, as you know. absolutely. the interesting thing about 95- 96 was that was a big idealogical question. basically clinton in some ways said to gingrich, you all say you don t want government. let s close it down. and gingrich did it. and they adjudicated it and the country decided they wanted the government. so we found ourselves in that kind of centrist position. this is very specific, right? there is this and donald trump has the remarkable capacity to make things peripheral central. it s why he s president again,