He never made the agreement. I think he knew he was looking at jail time. It was how much he could shave off. And i think thats what were beginning to get some idea at. I would throw this question to chuck, is one of the central key differences here between these two, between the flynn and cohen case, is that flynn cooperated immediately, early, right out of the gate and often. And that cohen was late . One of the big differences here is between early cooperation and late cooperation . Flynn was immediate, it was fullsome, it was timely and it was therefore substantial. Cohen was later and less. Look, to the earlier point about tension, theres always tension. Doj is a big family, but in the end its a family and theyre going to reach one point of view, its articulated in this document. Im going to thank joyce, chuck, ken, the reverend. Chuck is going to pick up our coverage right now. Hi, chuck. How are you doing, one down, two to go. Enjoy. What are you talking about here . This is wha
and, you know, he knows the truth. and i think the truth is going to come out. and that s what, you know, set off this tweet storm this morning from trump. i think he s sensing that, too. i think the big picture point i would make, this is bringing home to me this idea that the business and the political interests here are so intertwined, and we ve been talking about this since cohen pled guilty and we heard about the trump tower, moscow deal going on at the same time as the campaign, i really think that the link between those interests trump s business interests and what happened with russia is starting to become clearer and we re going to see that come more into focus and that s central to what mueller is doing. frank s what s your sense of how much mueller knows? how far along he is? to get to that last redaction in plain sight, redacting without
by the russians to find leverage inside trump world. absolutely. i m happy to be with you chuck. there is a lot of news here in these filings. in listening to you and your panelists i think the manchurian hangs over this, what we re seeing mueller do and the way he deployed the prosecutors in new york, new york is bad cop when it comes to michael cohen s sentencing, four years, heavy, heavy, big big fine. half a million dollar fine, i believe. yeah. and then the mueller filing we see with regard to michael cohen is good cop because it doesn t ask for any prison time and says as a legal matter to the extent he gets any it would be served at the same time or cancelled out with what he gets in new york. so that is a nice reaction from mueller to cohen for what he gave. i think what mueller is telling us tonight what we didn t know even an hour ago, is that michael cohen did provide very