you don t offend. you don t insult personally the likes of kim jong-un because he is deified in north korea. it s sort of au red line you don t cross. the u.s. president has crossed it a number of times. he has talked about him being little rocket man. he has even in the united nations at the general assembly stood up and say if necessary, we will totally destroy north korea. so the relationship between these two countries and these two leaders could not be worse at this point. in between all that, you have donald trump also saying well, maybe i would talk to him, maybe i wouldn t. keeping everyone guessing, as well. cyril? paula hancocks in. the south korean capital. matt rivers currently in china. thank you both for coming on the show. i have no doubt we ll continue to talk to you almost daily throughout 2018. this issue far from resolved. coming up, the central street journal is reporting new details